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We are joined once again by our good friends Kim McMasters and Hicham Benhallam from the band Post Sixty Five. We discuss their latest release "Crowdsurfing" and how the pandemic helped shape it.\\xa0

We also discuss promising future opportunities for kissing our friends, the minefield that is internet advertising, and hypothetical ways to defraud for-profit insurance companies through the power of podcasting.

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Created by Mason Hershenow

Produced by Sean Ang and Christopher Scott McNeill

Edited and mixed by Mason Hershenow

Our theme music is "January: Brief" by Mason Hershenow