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Sam Harris speaks with Jonah Goldberg about the state of American politics and civil society. They discuss the hyperpartisanship of the Left and Right, what Trump has done to the Republican party, the breakdown of trust in institutions, the \\u201cnew catastrophism\\u201d enabled by social media, the problem of populism, and other topics.

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Learning how to train your mind is the single greatest investment you can make in life. That\\u2019s why Sam Harris created the Waking Up app. From rational mindfulness practice to lessons on some of life\\u2019s most important topics, join Sam as he demystifies the practice of meditation and explores the theory behind it.