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Published: Feb. 2, 2022, 4:07 p.m.

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Charis and Eugene talk about the attitude of the team behind the Italian luxury fashion brand Brunello Cucinelli toward growth and family business. They also discuss the conviction of Elizabeth Holmes, former founder and CEO of the health tech company Theranos, in a trial that ended in January.

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00:04:19 Brunello Cucinelli

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00:23:47 Theranos

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Brunello Cucinelli says 2021 growth spurt \\u201cnot rational\\u201d by Luke Leitch

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The Dropout, a podcast hosted by Rebecca Jarvis produced by ABC News

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