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Susan Burton is an editor at\xa0This American Life, the author of the memoir\xa0Empty, and the host of the podcast\xa0The Retrievals.\n\u201cI know I have much more anger than I reveal, and I don\u2019t think that\u2019s uncommon. Especially for women. There\u2019s been a lot of attention to that in recent years\u2014the anger of women, how it\u2019s expressed and not expressed. But I think that among the things I\u2019ve stifled for years are just my true feelings, and I\u2019ve always wanted to be close to people and to be intimate with people, and have often felt that I have trouble making myself known or being known or being understood. And so...it felt good to be known.\u201d\nShow notes:\n\n@burtonsusan\n\nsusanburton.net\n\nBurton on Longform\n\nBurton\u2019s\xa0This American Life\xa0archive\n\n01:00\xa0\u201cIn The Event of an Emergency, Put Your Sister in an Upright Position\u201d\xa0(Ira Glass \u2022 This American Life \u2022 Jan 2001)\n\n05:00\xa0Empty\xa0(Random House \u2022 2020)\n\n06:00\xa0\u201cSecrets\u201d\xa0(This American Life \u2022 Feb 2021)\n\n39:00\xa0\u201cTerry Gross and the Art of Opening Up\u201d\xa0(New York Times \u2022 Oct 2015)\n\n42:00\xa0\u201cFrom 'Empty' To 'Satisfied': Author Traces A Hunger That Food Can't Fix\u201d\xa0(Terry Gross \u2022 NPR \u2022 June 2020)\n\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices