Jeff Goodell is a climate change writer for\xa0Rolling Stone\xa0and the author of seven books. His new book is\xa0The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet.\n\u201cI would not have said this even five years ago, but I have really come to see this now as a crime story. This is a kind of looting of the atmosphere of the earth, siphoning off resources and grossly profiting off of that at the expense of many other people\u2014billions of people\u2014on this planet. And I understand that\u2019s a big thing to say, but I think it\u2019s just pretty obviously true. \u2026 I don\u2019t mean that personally that each one of them personally is a criminal. We are all complicit in this.\u201d\nShow notes:\n\n@jeffgoodell\n\njeffgoodellwriter.com\n\nGoodell on Longform\n\nGoodell\u2019s\xa0Rolling Stone\xa0archive\n\n11:00\xa0\u201cWho\u2019s a Hero Now?\u201d\xa0(New York Times Magazine \u2022 July 2003)\n\n15:00\xa0The Water Will Come\xa0(Back Bay Books \u2022 2018)\n\n15:00\xa0Big Coal\xa0(Houghton Mifflin Harcourt \u2022 2006)\n\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices