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Abraham Josephine Riesman is a journalist who writes often for\xa0New York and is the author of\xa0True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee. Her second book,\xa0Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America, will be published in March.\n\u201cYou\u2019re sure that there\u2019s a level of unreality, but you\u2019re not sure that it\u2019s all fake. There\u2019s stuff there that seems either plausible or sometimes you go \u2018there\u2019s no way you could fake that.\u2019 And sometimes you\u2019re right, and a lot of times you\u2019re somewhere in the middle. It\u2019s not as easily distinguished as saying this is fact and this is fiction, this was scripted and this was improvised, whatever. You can\u2019t make those distinctions easily, and one of the things I sort of hope comes out of the book\u2014if it has any impact at all\u2014is to try to get us past this false binary of true and false.\u201d\nShow notes:\n\n@abrahamjoseph\n\nabrahamriesman.com\n\nRiesman on Longform\n\nRiesman\u2019s\xa0New York Magazine\xa0archive\n\n16:00\xa0"She Was WWE\u2019s First Female Referee. She Says Vince McMahon Raped Her."\xa0(New York Magazine \u2022 June 2022)\n\n27:00\xa0"There Is No Dignity in This Kind of America"\xa0(Jamelle Bouie \u2022 New York Times \u2022 Feb 2023)\n\n28:00\xa0"My Grandfather the Zionist"\xa0(New York Magazine \u2022 June 2021)\n\n37:00\xa0"How Los Bros Hernandez Stayed Punk for 40 Years with their Epic Comic-Book Saga, Love and Rockets"\xa0(GQ \u2022 Nov 2022)\n\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices