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Caitlin Dickerson is a staff writer for\xa0The Atlantic\xa0covering immigration. Her latest article, on the secret history of U.S. government\u2019s family-separation policy, is\xa0\u201dAn American Catastrophe.\u201d\n\u201cInterviewing separated families, I\u2019ve found, is just on a whole other scale of pain and trauma. I\u2019ve watched people have really intense PTSD flashbacks in front of me. I never wanted to risk asking a family to open up in that way if I didn\u2019t know that I\u2019d be able to use that material. The worst thing you can do is waste someone\u2019s time in a way that causes them pain.\u201d\nShow notes:\n\n@itscaitlinhd\n\nDickerson on Longform\n\nDickerson\u2019s\xa0Atlantic\xa0archive\n\n09:00\xa0Dickerson\u2019s\xa0New York Times\xa0archive\n\n\n09:00\xa0Dickerson\u2019s\xa0NPR\xa0archive\n\n\n15:00\xa0The Fifth Risk\xa0(Michael Lewis \u2022 W.W. Norton \u2022 2019)\n\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices