Episode 445: Barrett Swanson

Published: June 23, 2021, 3:48 p.m.

Barrett Swanson is a contributing editor at Harper\u2019s\xa0and the author of\xa0Lost in Summerland.\u201cYou just have to sit there for a long time. That lesson was indisputably crucial for me. Just being willing to talk to someone, even if the first half-hour or hour is unutterably boring, or it doesn\u2019t seem pertinent. These little things, the deeper things, take a while to get at and they kind of burble to the surface at moments when you\u2019re not totally expecting it to happen. So for me, it\u2019s just making myself available for that moment to occur.\u201d\n\nThanks to\xa0Mailchimp\xa0for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\nShow notes:\nSwanson on Longform\n00:30\xa0Lost in Summerland\xa0(Catapult \u2022 2021)\n00:30\xa0"Lost in Summerland"\xa0(The Atavist \u2022 December 2019)\n00:45\xa0"The Anxiety of Influencers"\xa0(Harper\u2019s \u2022 September 2020)\n10:00\xa0"The Solider and the Soil"\xa0(Orion Magazine \u2022 December 2017)\n11:30\xa0"Men at Work"\xa0(Harper\u2019s \u2022 November 2019)\n20:00\xa0"Political Fictions: Unraveling America at a West Wing Fan Convention"\xa0(Paris Review \u2022 November 2018)\n28:00\xa0\u201cAnnie Radcliffe, You Are Loved,\u201d\xa0(American Short Fiction Issue #56 \u2022 2015)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices