Lulu Miller is a former producer at Radiolab and a co-founder of Invisibilia. Her new book is Why Fish Don't Exist: A Story of Loss, Love, and the Hidden Order of Life.\n\n\u201cI think almost every radio story I\u2019ve ever done comes down to the question of me trying to ask a person how they get through this life thing. How they get through this breakup. How they get through being disabled in a family that's crushing them. How they get through having a head that's poisonous. Every story is just, Oh, what's your trick?\u201d\n\nThanks to Mailchimp, Literati, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n@lmillernpr\nlutimestwo.com\nMiller's archive at NPR\nInvisibilia\n[04:57] Why Fish Don't Exist: A Story of Loss, Love, and the Hidden Order of Life (Simon & Schuster \u2022 2020)\n[15:18] "The Reluctant Immortalist" (Invisibilia \u2022 April 2020)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices