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Jean-Xavier de Lestrade is a French documentary filmmaker. He directed Murder on a Sunday Morning and The Staircase.\n\n\n\n\u201cThe courtroom in the United States is not really about the truth. It\u2019s more about a story against another story. It\u2019s more about storytelling. The more compelling or believable story by the jury will win. But in the end, we don\u2019t know: is it the truth or not?\u201d\n\n\n\nThanks to Mailchimp, Pitt Writers, and We Love You (and So Can You) for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n[00:05] We Love You (And So Can You)\n\n\n[01:00] You Can\u2019t Make This Up\n\n\n[02:16] The Staircase (2004)\n\n\n[02:50] The Staircase II: The Last Chance (2013)\n\n\n[02:53] The Staircase (2018)\n\n\n[05:15] Murder on a Sunday Morning (2001)\n\n\n[05:35] The Justice of the Men (2001)\n\n\n[11:35] Caught in the Acts (Raymond Depardon \u2022 1994)\n\n\n[12:05] Law and Order (Frederick Wiseman \u2022 1969)\n\n\n[12:12] Welfare(Frederick Wiseman \u2022 1975)\n\n\n[12:16] Public Housing (Frederick Wiseman \u2022 1997)\n\n\n[25:23] Making a Murderer (Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos \u2022 2015)\n\n\n[25:25] The Jinx (Andrew Jarecki \u2022 2015)\n\n\n[25:27] The Keepers (Ryan White \u2022 2017)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices