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Michael Pollan writes for The New York Times Magazine and The New Yorker and is the author of nine books. His latest is How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence.\n\n\u201cI don\u2019t like writing as an expert. I\u2019m fine doing public speeches as an expert. Or writing op-ed pieces as an expert. But as a writer, it\u2019s a killer. Nobody likes an expert. Nobody likes to be lectured at. And if you\u2019ve read anything I\u2019ve written, I\u2019m kind of an idiot on page one. I am the na\xefve fish out of water. I\u2019m learning though. The narrative that we always have as writers is our own education on the topic. We can recreate the process of learning that's behind the book.\u201d\n\nThanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n\n\n@michaelpollan\n\n\nmichaelpollan.com\n\n\nPollan on Longform\n\n\n[00:38] How to Change Your Mind (Penguin Press \u2022 2018)\n\n\n[00:46] Pollan's Harper\u2019s archive\n\n\n[02:58] \u201dThe Trip Treatment\u201d (New Yorker \u2022 2015)\n\n\n[03:30] The Omnivore\u2019s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals (Penguin Press \u2022 2007)\n\n\n[03:31] A Place of My Own: The Architecture of Daydreams (Penguin Press \u2022 1997)\n\n\n[03:35] Cooked: A Natural History of Transformation (Penguin Press \u2022 2014)\n\n\n[04:35] Paper Lion (George Plimpton \u2022 Harper \u2022 1966)\n\n\n[06:18] "Power Steer\u201d (New York Times \u2022 Oct 2002)\n\n\n[06:58] National Lampoon's 1973 cover\n\n\n[09:12] \u201dGardening Means War\u201d (New York Times \u2022 1988)\n\n\n[16:06] Second Nature: A Gardener\u2019s Education (Grove Press; Reprint Edition \u2022 2003)\n\n\n[16:15] The End of Nature (Bill McKibben \u2022 Random House \u2022 1989)\n\n\n[16:06] The Botany of Desire: A Plant\u2019s-Eye View of the World (Random House \u2022 2002)\n\n\n[28:53] "Town-Building is No Mickey Mouse Operation\u201d (New York Times \u2022 1997)\n\n\n[31:34] "Some of My Best Friends Are Germs\u201d (New York Times \u2022 2013)\n\n\n[31:50] "The Intelligent Plant\u201d (New Yorker \u2022 2013)\n\n\n[32:09] The Overstory: A Novel (Richard Powers \u2022 W.W Norton & Company \u2022 2018)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices