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Emily Bazelon is a staff writer at the New York Times Magazine and a co-host of Political Gabfest. Her latest book is Charged: The New Movement to Transform American Prosecution and End Mass Incarceration.\n\n\u201cI'm pretty convinced that if everybody went to criminal court we would not have courts that are dysfunctional the way our courts are. Because what you see every day is a lot of dysfunction and disrespect. It\u2019s kind of deadening. Most people\u2014especially most middle and upper-class people in this country\u2014don\u2019t know anything about the system. They haven\u2019t experienced it first-hand and they prefer not to think about it. It\u2019s very stigmatized. A lot of what I do is just bear witness.\u2019\u201d\n\nThanks to MailChimp, The Great Courses Plus, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n\n\n@emilybazelon\n\n\nBazelon on Longform\n\n\n[02:16] Charged: The New Movement to Transform American Prosecution and End Mass Incarceration (Emily Bazelon \u2022 Random House \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[03:38] Bazelon's Slate archive\n\n\n[03:38] Bazelon's New York Times Magazine archive\n\n\n[04:01] Political Gabfest\n\n\n[04:28] \u201dShe was Convicted of Killing Her Mother. Prosecutors Withheld the Evidence That Would Have Freed Her.\u201d (New York Times \u2022 2017)\n\n\n[14:38] Charged: A True Punishment Story\n\n\n[22:15] Eric Gonzalez Interview\n\n\n[26:14] Uncivil\n\n\n[41:11] "Conservatives for Criminal Justice Reform" (Grover Norquist \u2022 Wall Street Journal \u2022 Sep 2017)\n\n\n[45:43] The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness (Michelle Alexander \u2022 The New Press \u2022 2012)\n\n\n[49:11] Court Watch\n\n\n[51:18] "Kavanaugh Was Questioned by Police After Bar Fight in 1985\u201d (Emily Bazelon and Ben Protess \u2022 New York Times \u2022 Oct 2018)\n\n\n[52:02] "Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father\u201d (David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner \u2022 New York Times \u2022 Oct 2018)\n\n\n[57:26] Sarah Huckabee Sanders's tweet about Bazelon\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices