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Nathaniel Rich is a novelist and a writer-at-large for The New York Times Magazine. His most recent article is "Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change."\n\n\u201cThere\u2019s a huge opportunity with climate change because we talk a lot about the political issue with it, the industry story and the scientific story, but we don\u2019t talk about the human story. And I would say that not only is it a big human story, but it is the human story. ... With every step of the ladder that we\u2019ve advanced, we\u2019re borrowing from our future. I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve reckoned with that in a serious way.\u201d\n\nThanks to MailChimp, Read This Summer, Google Play, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n@NathanielRich\nnathanielrich.com\nRich on Longform\nLongform Podcast #96: Nathaniel Rich\n[00:30] King Zeno (MCD \u2022 2018)\n[1:30] "Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change" (New York Times Magazine \u2022 Aug 2018)\n[4:10] "Fractured Lands: How the Arab World Came Apart" (Scott Anderson \u2022 New York Times Magazine \u2022 Aug 2018)\n[45:30] "The Problem With The New York Times\u2019 Big Story on Climate Change" (Robinson Meyer \u2022 The Atlantic \u2022 Aug 2018)\n[57:59] No Immediate Danger: Volume One of Carbon Ideologies (William Vollmann \u2022 Viking \u2022 2018)\n[58:00] No Good Alternative: Volume Two of Carbon Ideologies (William Vollmann \u2022 Viking \u2022 2018)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices