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Lauren Hilgers is a journalist and the author of Patriot Number One: American Dreams in Chinatown.\n\n \u201cYou just need to spend a lot of time with people. And it\u2019s awkward. I read something when I was first starting out as a journalist in China, \u2018Make a discipline out of being uncomfortable.\u2019 I think that\u2019s very helpful. You\u2019re going to feel uncomfortable a lot of the time, and just decide to be okay with it and just keep going with it.\u201d\n\nThanks to MailChimp, Substack, and Skillshare for sponsoring this week's episode.\n@lehilgers\nHilgers on Longform\n[01:10] "The Kitchen Network" (The New Yorker \u2022 Oct 2014)\n[02:00] Patriot Number One: American Dreams in Chinatown (Crown \u2022 2018)\n[39:55] "The Unraveling of Bo Xilai" (Harper\u2019s Magazine \u2022 March 2013)\n\n\xa0\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices