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Kara Swisher is the executive editor and co-founder of Recode.\n\n \u201cI do the work. I just work harder than other people. I really do. I work harder, I interview more people, I call more people, I text more people. And so I find out, and they can not talk to me \u2014 fine. I know anyway. I\u2019d like to talk to you, I\u2019d like to give you a chance. I\u2019d like to be fair. I\u2019d like to hear your side of the story. And the most important thing is, I think smart people \u2013 and these are very smart people \u2014 like smart questions. They don\u2019t like the fawning questions. They don\u2019t like being licked up and down all day. Some of the day they like it. They want someone who knew them before they were billionaires. Because when you\u2019re a billionaire, every day you\u2019re so smart. Everyone wants something from you.\u201d\n\nThanks to Mubi, Findaway Voices, and Mail Chimp for sponsoring this week's episode. And thanks to Pop-Up Magazine for making our live show possible!\n@karaswisher\n[02:35] Longform Podcast #239: Brian Reed\n[02:50] Recode\n[02:55] Recode Decode\n[03:00] Code Conference\n[04:40] "Kara Swisher\u2019s First Tech Article Was About Pay Phones in 1980" (Jesse Rifkin \u2022 A Step in the Write Direction \u2022 Nov 2017)\n[08:10] "McLaughlin Suit Settled" (Jim Naughton, Phil McCombs \u2022 Washington Post \u2022 Dec 1999)\n[10:00] "Pundit Power" (Eric Alterman \u2022 Washington Post \u2022 March 1989)\n[11:30] Longform Podcast #128: Jack Shafer\n[22:51] AOL.com: How Steve Case Beat Bill Gates, Nailed the Netheads, and Made Millions in the War for the Web (Crown Business \u2022 1998)\n[35:25] Swisher\u2019s Archive at Vanity Fair\n[41:20] "Uber CEO Kalanick Advised Employees on Sex Rules for a Company Celebration in 2013 \u2018Miami Letter\u2019" (Kara Swisher, Johana Bhuiyan \u2022 Recode \u2022 June 2017)\n[41:40] "A Top Uber Executive, Who Obtained the Medical Records of a Customer Who Was a Rape Victim, Has Been Fired\u2019" (Kara Swisher, Johana Bhuiyan \u2022 Recode \u2022 June 2017)\n[41:40] "The Men and (No) Women Facebook of Facebook Management" (Wall Street Journal \u2022 Aug 2007)\n[41:50] "The Men and No Women of Web 2.0 Boards" (Wall Street Journal \u2022 Dec 2010)\n[43:40] "Will Twitter Add a Woman Director Before the IPO?" (Wall Street Journal \u2022 Sept 2013)\n[48:40] " Missing Milly Dowler's Voicemail Was Hacked by News of the World" (Nick Davies, Amelia Hill \u2022 The Guardian \u2022 July 2011)\n[58:35] There Must Be a Pony in Here Somewhere (Crown Business \u2022 2003)\n[61:35] Pop-Up Magazine\n[61:40] California Sunday\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices