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Phil Mellen was the Deputy Director of Children's Services for Leeds City Council.

He tells me about having to leave the role, contracting Covid and then long Covid, writing songs and his recording deal.

Phil lives in Cheshire, just south of Manchester and answers the three questions I ask every guest.

http://www.blacksheeplad.com/

https://twitter.com/blacksheeplad

https://soundcloud.com/blacksheeplad

https://blacksheeplad.bandcamp.com/

https://www.instagram.com/blacksheeplad/?hl=en-gb

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