b"Episode 185 of ADJ\\u2022ective New Music's podcast, Lexical Tones. Robert McClure interviews composer Nathaniel James Haering. http://nathanielhaering.com/\\n\\nVisit www.adjectivenewmusic.com for more information about ADJ\\u2022ective New Music, the ADJ\\u2022ective Composers' Collective, and Lexical Tones."