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b"Laziness has traditionally been something that is frowned upon, however, as we hear from Bill Gates, there are certain aspects of laziness that can serve a business really well. Lazy people often look for the easiest way to do something, so this tendency, combined with intelligence, can be a great boost for finding new and quicker methods! These types of thinkers often did not do very well at school (like Eric!) and it is only out in the real world of business and startups that they can begin to excel by tapping into their unique gifts! Listen in to hear all about it!\\n \\xa0\\n TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES:\\n [00:21] Before we jump into today\\u2019s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast!\\n [00:26] Reframing your thoughts on laziness!\\n [00:40] Finding shortcuts is a skill and using it can be a big benefit.\\n [01:29] Eric's usual method for creating school papers at the last minute\\n [02:00] What Eric would do now if he was forced to go to college and study history.\\xa0\\n [02:30] The four classes of characteristics; clever, lazy, stupid and industrious.\\n [03:24] Problems in the US school system and the issue of conformity.\\n [04:39] What Eric looks out for when hiring \\u2014 someone who can connect the dots.\\n [05:21] Changing the connotations of laziness into something positive.\\n \\xa0\\n Resources From The Interview:\\n \\xa0\\n \\xa0\\n Leveling Up\\n \\xa0\\n \\nBill Gates\\xa0\\n \\xa0\\n Leave Some Feedback:\\n \\xa0\\n \\xa0\\n What should I talk about next?\\xa0Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below.\\n Did you enjoy this episode?\\xa0If so, please leave a short review here\\n\\n Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes\\n\\n Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed\\n\\n \\xa0\\n \\xa0\\n Connect with Eric Siu:\\xa0\\n \\xa0\\n \\xa0\\n Growth Everywhere\\n Single Grain\\n Eric Siu on Twitter\\n \\xa0\\n \\xa0\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices"