Sonny Magana and Mac Bogert met through a mutual friend\u2014an editor who shares their passion for learning. Sonny\u2019s book, Disruptive Classroom Technologies, and Mac\u2019s, Learning Chaos, both rely on research and decades of teaching experience to forecast a vision of the classroom as a generative, exciting place of exploration and discovery. Together, they have a mission to transform our schools. This podcast is the first in a series, Chaos Innovation.