Nicholas Kristof is one of America's most experienced, prolific, awarded and grounded journalists.\xa0 I read him often when I want a point of view that comes with 35 years in the field and his signature big picture optimism.\xa0 This is a conversation to remind us all how exactly change happens.\xa0 \xa0Special thanks to the Aspen Ideas Festival for putting me on stage with Nick and for generally being such a great partner this year and last as we try to stay up to date on the best thinking.*Please note that this conversation references substance abuse, sexual abuse, and suicide.\xa0(Here's the link to Kelly's TED talk on the occasional need for extraordinary bravery in family life -- please post or share with every brave and loving person you admire.)\n \n \nTo learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy\n \n Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices