This event was part of the IfG's Labour Party Conference 2023 fringe programme.\n\nSpeakers:\nAndrew Gwynne MP, Shadow Minister for Social Care)\nSam Freedman, Senior Fellow at the Institute for Government\nRachel Sylvester, Political Columnist at The Times\nDr Paul Williams, UK Division President at Maximus\n\nThis event was chaired by Nick Davies, Programme Director of the Institute for Government.\n\nThis event was kindly supported by Maximus.