In this Afrikaans Language radio program, Indigenous Rights Radio's Shaldon Ferris (Khoisan, Johannesburg) receives a telephone call from Piet Berends and Willem Swarts (Khoisan, Northern Cape). They speak about survival in the Kalahari Desert and the hoodia plant. This program is in Afrikaans. Producer: Shaldon Ferris Interviewees: Piet Berends (Pictured) and Willem Swarts Music: "Kora Kalabash and Hum" by Johannes Davids, used with permission