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The stalk is over. Clarky conquers the Everest of podcast guests and puts the final boarding call for Dr Richard Denniss on the next plane to Tassie.

Simple answers to simple questions; Richard has made it his life work to break down the spin and call bullshit where it lands.

The National conversation about economics has done plenty to disenfranchise the average worker from big decisions.

Unnecessarily big words and jargon have made solving and participating in finding solutions space for a small group.

Richard wants this to change and for more Australians to have more agency in meaningful conversations.

In Economics, we often run into "econobabble"\u2026 nonsense, bullshit and spin. It's all's the same, on tv, in the crib shed, in the boardroom or down at the Local; If you can't get a simple answer to a simple question, it's more than likely blullshit

The big problem is, If you can throw in enough industry jargon, a bullshit answer becomes a slightly believable explanation. Richard seeks an Australia that can spot the nonsense and call it accordingly.

Beyond Australia's choices in the broader economy and fresh after the election, it's time to examine the role of government.

The Governments size and how that shapes Australia is the topic of Richard's new book (essay) "Big - The Role of the State in the Modern Economy",...a must read

Find more of Richard's work at The Australia Institute.