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On this episode of Conversations with Tom Bilyeu, Thomas Chatterton Williams tells his own story of unlearning poisonous stories about race through extensive reading, living in a new country, and reflecting on his own family. As the discussion progresses, he confronts the challenges we face in getting past mere anger to build the beautiful society that we ought to be able to live in. \n\nThis episode is brought to you by: \nWagner Spray Tech: https://bit.ly/2WNICDs \nPeopleReady: Visit peopleready.com/impacttheory \nBetter Help: Get 10% off your first month at https://betterhelp.com/impacttheory \n\nSHOW NOTES:\xa0\nThomas talks about a novel that he tried to write that he had to give up on [1:00] \nFiction is a very different medium from non-fiction writing and requires different skills [5:17] \nNothing is ever wasted, and the best of the lost novel ended up in his non-fiction work [9:00] \nThomas credits his father as being the first guy who \u201cpulled himself out of the Matrix\u201d [13:01] \nThomas tells the story of the poet he is named after [18:47] \nThomas then explains how he and his wife chose his daughter\u2019s name [21:20] \nThomas describes how stepping out of America caused him to view race differently [24:26] \nThomas discusses the complexity of his heritage, ethnicity and ancestry [28:52] \nThomas hopes for a society where the skin color is as unimportant as hair color [32:00] \nDo people want progress, or do they merely want catharsis and anger? [35:27] \nThe blanket of identity we throw over every issue obscures deeper problems [41:49] \nTom tells the story of how he started mining for astronauts in poor areas [48:14] \nShould we focus on helping children? [56:08] \nChildren are never in a vacuum and you have to affect the whole family [1:00:55] \nThomas talks about how he and his brother pursued completely opposed paths [1:06:22] \nThomas discusses how he raises his kids [1:13:30] \nThomas defines the good life as autonomy, as living according to his own values [1:19:27] \nTom and Thomas discuss Hip Hop in the 90s and today [1:23:35] \nHow can we get past anger towards the beautiful society on the other side? [1:32:36] \nWhat happens when people\u2019s efforts are channeled in very limited ways? [1:40:26] \nBuilding desire is one of life\u2019s most important quests [1:52:45]\xa0\n\nFOLLOW THOMAS: \nINSTAGRAM: https://bit.ly/2Z94PvI\xa0\nFACEBOOK: https://bit.ly/31dgnAu\xa0\nTWITTER: https://bit.ly/3esJJyP\xa0\n\nAre You Ready for EXTRA Impact?\nIf you\u2019re ready to find true fulfillment, strengthen your focus, and ignite your true potential, the Impact Theory subscription was created just for you.\nWant to transform your health, sharpen your mindset, improve your relationship, or conquer the business world? This is your epicenter of greatness.\xa0\nThis is not for the faint of heart. This is for those who dare to learn obsessively, every day, day after day.\nSubscription Benefits:\n\nUnlock the gates to a treasure trove of wisdom from inspiring guests like Andrew Huberman, Mel Robbins, Hal Elrod, Matthew McConaughey, and many, many, more\n\nNew episodes delivered ad-free\n\nExclusive access to Tom\u2019s AMAs, keynote speeches, and suggestions from his personal reading list\n\nYou\u2019ll also get access to an 5 additional podcasts with hundreds of archived Impact Theory episodes, meticulously curated into themed playlists covering health, mindset, business, relationships, and more:\n\n\nLegendary Mindset: Mindset & Self-Improvement\n\n\nMoney Mindset: Business & Finance\n\n\nRelationship Theory: Relationships\n\n\nHealth Theory: Mental & Physical Health\n\n\nPower Ups: Weekly Doses of Short Motivational Quotes\xa0\n\nSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PCvJaz\nSubscribe on all other platforms (Google Podcasts, Spotify, Castro, Downcast, Overcast, Pocket Casts, Podcast Addict, Podcast Republic, Podkicker, and more) : https://impacttheorynetwork.supercast.com/\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices