Joe Gerson is the President of the Campaign for Peace, Disarmament, and Common Security. He is in Vienna for the first meeting related to the Non-proliferation treaty for nuclear weapons. He also discusses how Ukraine is a proxy war between Russia and the US and the long-term impacts on America's role as the dominant global leader. With Mark Dunlea for Hudson Mohawk Magazine. (https://grahamefuller.com/some-hard-thoughts-about-post-ukraine/)