This week the news team bring you the podcast from the NHS Confed/Expo conference in Liverpool.
\nAnnabelle Collins, Lawrence Dunhill and Dave West are joined by guest Charlotte Augst, chief executive of charity National Voices.
\nWe cover the biggest talking points from this year\u2019s conference, including Amanda Pritchard\u2019s debut NHS Confed speech as NHSE CEO, the health secretary\u2019s vision for \u2018reform trusts\u2019 and the continued uncertainty around ICS development.