Peter Beard and Richard Ruggiero

Published: Oct. 22, 2012, 4 a.m.

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This week on Here\\u2019s The Thing, Alec talks with two men who have spent much of their lives living and working in Africa.\\xa0Photographer Peter Beard first set foot on the continent in 1955. Richard Ruggiero, of the US Fish and Wildlife Service, began his Peace Corps stint in 1981 in the northern Central African Republic.

\\u201cWe are enemies of nature,\\u201d says Beard, whose photographs have documented the destruction of wildlife in Africa, including the plight of the African Elephant, the very topic of Ruggiero\\u2019s doctoral dissertation.\\xa0Ruggiero continues to work in Africa today and says the situation with elephant poaching right now is a \\u201cnightmare.\\u201d\\xa0That says, says Ruggiero, \\u201cPeople are the problem, but they are also the solution.\\u201d

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