This week, we start the show with Dale Marshall, National Program Manager from Environmental Defence who is in Lima, Peru for COP20. Dale talks to us about the final week of the conference and implications for the next critical conference in Paris.\n\nIn the middle of the show, Journalist Krystyna Henke speaks with Heather Walter and Eric West, who perform environmental songs for youth.\n\nWe do this all this and more for basically nothing, learn more and support us here: www.patreon.com/greenmajority\n\nFor full listings and more info about this episode visit:\nhttps://greenmajoritymedia.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/430-cop-out/