With Ben departed Giles and Esther engage in some existential podcast reflection before tackling their new producer, the social scene at Cheltenham races and Prime Minister Sunak\u2019s dog walking. Giles grills Esther on Jeremy Hunts pension plans and Esther grills Giles on why he can\u2019t control his bladder.
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