b'On today\\u2019s episode of #WithSONAR, Luke and Kyle are back with special guest Phil Schmidbauer, the Sr. Director of Analytics at ODW Logistics and Transportation diving into how they use SONAR to de-risk their customers and save them money!\\nFollow #withSONAR on Apple Podcasts\\nFollow #withSONAR on Spotify\\nMore FreightWaves Podcasts\\n\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices'