Matt Harris is the president of Pathway Leasing, one of the largest independent leasing companies in the U.S. For the first time in awhile, he's dealing with drivers on lease who are also facing declining rates. How does that resolve itself? He joins host John Kingston to talk about the lease market.\nAlso on the podcast: has the diesel spread against crude moved to a more permanent elevated level?\nFollow Drilling Deep on Apple Podcasts\nFollow Drilling Deep on Spotify\nMore FreightWaves Podcasts\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices