I can\u2019t get Plato\u2019s Paradox out of my head: Democracy inevitably leads to tyranny. The rich always want to get richer and the poor will follow demagogues who promise to overthrow the rich.I first learned of Plato\u2019s pessimistic prophesy\xa0 In ASTRA TAYLOR'S documentary WHAT IS DEMOCRACY? and her companion book, Democracy May Not Exist, But We\u2019ll Miss It When It\u2019s Gone. \xa0Here\u2019s our 2020 conversation. We explore democracy\u2019s early roots as well as its current embattled state. Next week I'll respond to the election with Rob Johnson of the Institute for New Economic Thinking.