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Put your listening ears on because Kate, Doree, and Jackie sit down for a very vulnerable and refreshing conversation about everything from job security and parasocial relationships to mom-guilt and what goes on behind closed podcast network doors. Plus, Jackie spills some hot tea about former Natch Beaut guests and beauty founders!

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