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Kate goes high maintenance to stay low maintenance and Doree sends more things out of her home than she brings in. Then, Tiffany Dufu, founder and CEO of The Cru, joins them to chat about music as self-care, asking for help when her business was put in peril because of the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, and the best way to recalibrate when you\\u2019re feeling crippling self-doubt.

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