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This week Kate accidentally blocks Doree on Instagram and works on her social anxiety, and Doree details the joy of being complimented on having the skin of a 27 year old. Then, they discuss their underwear preferences and favorite brands, and swap Spanx horror stories.

Later, Kate interviews Angela Garbes about her new book Like A Mother: A Feminist Journey through the Science and Culture of Pregnancy. They have an in-depth conversation about pregnancy and childbirth (starts at 38 minutes), discussing the lack of information women have about their bodies during pregnancy, the challenges women face after childbirth, how she handled it when the birth of her child was the opposite of her birth plan, changing the narrative around pregnancy loss, and dancing as self-care. Follow her @AngelaGarbes on Instagram.

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Theme music by Riot.

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