Food Safety Talk 63: The Great One

Published: July 14, 2014, 3:28 p.m.

b'Don and Ben revert back to their old Skype issues with the perceived blame being on Ben, but it was actually Don. Don announced that there will be help for people like Ben who aren\\u2019t so good at time and attention at IAFP 2014 the infamous Merlin Mann will be there. About 0.1% of IAFP annual meeting attendees will be excited to see him - including Ben and Don. Ben mentions his excitement that Professor Dr. Donald Schaffner, PhD was name checked on Back to Work Episode 173. The first mention of The Wire comes at 12 minutes which the guys then give a shout out to Baltimore resident Manan Sharma who mentioned that that\\u2019s his favorite part of the show. In follow-up from Episode 61, friend of the show MDD says that there are not rats in Alberta Ben and Don remark while there may not be any snakes in New Zealand and Ireland (although Ben thinks that Don is thinking of potatoes) there are rats in small pockets in Alberta While Alberta has had a rat eradication program since the 1950s, a colony of Norwegian rats, of Roanoke Island proportion, was found in Medicine Hat in 2012 and 2014 Ben tells Don that he wears big pockets, because of the rats issue and on a pilgrimage to Edmonton to see a statue of The Great One his pockets were not checked. The guys then talk about a question from IAFP\\u2019s Dina (not Dinah). Dina asked the guys to discuss their thoughts on a recent JFP paper about non-intact steak cooking using temperature, flipping/turning and different cooking methods. The practical, take-home message (as dictated using Dragon Dictate that flipping and covering with a lid (which allows cooking to occur both through conduction and convection heat) and using a thermometer for all cuts of meat helps reduce risk. Ben talked a bit about some future work that his group is doing looking at mechanically tenderized beef messaging, perception and behavior- including cubed steak (which is sometimes two pieces of meat slapped together and run through the cuber- although not by wikipedia). The discussion then went towards steak eating preferences as detailed by FiveThirtyEight Nate Silver\\u2019s cadre of numbers nerds who dissect a lot of pop culture and sports questions. The guys then both talked about message variability projects they have going on. Ben\\u2019s group is looking at cook book recipes (and how the messages and instructions in the culinary world often are not evidence-based). And Don\\u2019s group is looking at messaging on handwashing signs, something that his second favorite graduate student, Dane, is undertaking. In outbreak flashback the guys talked about 1854\\u2019s Broad St. Pump cholera outbreak. Using a map and analyzing cases of human disease, John Snow, largely recognized as one of the founders of epidemiology, created a blueprint for the next generation of disease hunters. Removing the handle on the pump was recognized by ending the outbreak except that modern epi-curve analysis suggests that the outbreak was already on the decline. Ben\\u2019s favorite part was what one of his undergraduate professors, Anthony Clarke talked about in class 15 years ago: the monks in a local monastery did not get sick because they didn\\u2019t drink the water, just home brewed beer. The guys then ended the show talking about an outbreak linked to food service hamburgers made from Wolverine Packing (or Wolverine\\u2019s Packing with adamantium slicers and grinders) beef. It\\u2019s unclear whether illnesses are linked to undercooked burgers or cross contamination - although anecdotally undercooked burgers have been reported. One of Ben\\u2019s graduate student\\u2019s Ellen Thomas has been working on a project related directly to this type of product, where secret shoppers have been speaking with servers at burger-serving family style restaurants throughout the U.S. The results of the project will be shared at IAFP in Indianapolis. In after dark the guys chuckle and guffaw about Ben\\u2019s Beatles references and Time and Attention and Tony Robbins who Ben thinks is in prison. But he\\u2019s'