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b"After some initial expected Skype problems the guys talked about a range of topics including their favorite beers, Apple phobias, The Wire, about (not) working from home and Telecommuting policies, writing papers using DragonDictate, Don\\u2019s Squarespace 6 trial and Ben\\u2019s The Newsroom sharing system. The guys then critiqued some obfuscated food safety messages about Listeria put out Partnership for Food Safety Education. The discussion then turned to the horse meat scandal and that audits are a tool rather than the tool. This reminded Don of the Chinese melamine incident and labeling fraud. The guys then took a short podcasting detour to Scott Simpson\\u2019s Your Monkey Called article for The Magazine entitled You\\u2019re boring. It made them think about the stories they are trying to tell in podcast episodes, blog articles or presentations. This reminded Ben of the story of Ashley\\u2019s lack of emotion to a Norovirus outbreak on UNC campus, but we don\\u2019t know how she would react to Carolyn Dunn\\u2019s story on Food Myths and Memes of no baby carrots. This turned into a chat about kale, Brussels sprouts, beets, asparagus and bodily functions. Ben then shared his surprise of reading about accelerated aging canned food, which prompted Don to think about a couple of early food science books \\u2013 Ted Labuza\\u2019s \\u201cShelf-Life Dating of Foods\\u201d and Harold McGee\\u2019s \\u201cCurious Cook.\\u201d Though Don wasn\\u2019t too keen on the idea of aging canned food. The guys then wondered about how a Michigan firm could be operating without a HACCP plan and the subsequent recall. Don then got grumpy about Candy eggs that have all been cleared of Salmonella. Then Ben got on his favorite soap box about the lack of information that is being provided. In the after dark the guys talked about Mobee Magic Charger, HyperJuice 2 external batteries, Don\\u2019s ski hat and Ben's toque ,and Ben\\u2019s fantasy baseball.\\u200b"