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Just the other day I interviewed Marcus Carter, entrepreneur, author, real estate investor and creator of the website theblackwealthbuilder.org. I ended up having a frank and refreshingly positive conversation about racial issues and real estate investing.

I don’t really think about issues of race all that much. The color of a person’s skin is such a silly thing to worry about in my humble opinion. I know that it of course is a hot issue in our society but I’ve been unsure what, if anything, I can do to help. My good friends Ramon Tookes and Glen Glasper and I did a YouTube show with me titled, “An Honest Conversation About Race.” Well-meaning white people are being pushed into a no-win situation by some of the shouters out there. If we go about our business as usual, we are accused of being racist. If we say, “I’m colorblind” they will say, “if you have to proclaim it, that just proves you’re racist.” So what are we to do? Carry on as best we can, live the truth we believe and let our reputation over time speak for itself.

But today I had one of those moments that interrupt “life as normal” when I spoke with Marcus Carter today. We started talking about issues of race, wealth, and real estate, and well - got off topic for a bit.

Marcus is coming up in a few moments, but before we go there, we need to go here. Our guest-host Starr Keels is here with us today. And we’ve never discussed this before, but Starr is black.