The Eternal Optimist - Dr. Steve Turley #4995

Published: Dec. 11, 2020, 1 p.m.

Our good friend Dr. Steve Turley joined up. Forever the optimist, he believes that justice will eventually be served and that there's an unstoppable rise of conservatism and nationalism. Others are not quite so sanguine. We hope that Steve is right and the rest of us are wrong.