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https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/opt-podcast/?utm_medium=organic_social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast_promotion\n\nOnce a month, we\u2019ll be holding live conversations that YOU can be a part of! \n\nWith EMP Podcast Plus, you\u2019ll get a members-only \u201cbackstage pass\u201d and exclusive access to:\n\U0001f534 Monthly LIVE Zoom calls with Rafe Kelley & EMP Podcast guests\n\U0001f399 Ask your Questions Live to Movement + Meaning Experts after the show\n\U0001f4ac Access to EMP\u2019s distraction-free movement discussion community\n\U0001f4f9 Exclusive Monthly Response video from Rafe to member questions\n\U0001f45f Movement Challenges for your Daily Practice!\nand so much more...\n\nWe hope to see you soon in our thriving movement community! \n\nJust hit the link below to chat with us between shows and in the next live episode!\n\U0001f449 Join on https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/opt-podcast/?utm_medium=organic_social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast_promotion\n\n============\n\nToday on the podcast we are joined by Sevilla King.\n\nSevilla King runs a YouTube channel called \u201cA Quality Existence\u201d where she explores the connection between the work of folks like Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, & Jonathan Pageau with the works of Robert Pirsig, author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. \n\nThis book explores what Pirsig would call the \u201cMetaphysics of Quality\u201d which aligns deeply with Vervaeke\u2019s concept of relevance realization and what so many of these thinkers are talking about in the sense of meaning. \n\nIn this conversation we are going to dive into what Pirsig means by \u201cQuality\u201d; how does it align with models presented by Peterson, Vervaeke & Pageau, and when these models conflict, how do we resolve those conflictions in a way that brings us closer to understanding meaning and implementing practices that bring more meaning to our lives. \n\nI had a wonderful time talking with Sevilla, and hope to have her on the show again in the future, so if you also enjoyed the conversation, be sure to leave a like, comment, and subscribe if you haven\u2019t yet. \n\nYour support means the world to us! Thanks a lot and enjoy the show!\n\n============\n\nLearn More about Sevilla King\n\nPodcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vg0HkKKlgsWk-3HfV-vnw\n\n\n============\n\n\U0001f44dTo support the podcast please like, share, subscribe and turn on the notifications by hitting the bell icon. \n\n\U0001f464 VISIT US ONLINE\n- EMP Website: https://www.evolvemoveplay.com\n- EMP Shop: https://shop.evolvemoveplay.com\n- IG: @RafeKelly - http://www.instagram.com/rafekelley/ \n- FB: @RafeKelleyMovement - https://www.facebook.com/RafeKelleyMo...\n- Twitter: @rafekelley - https://twitter.com/rafekelley\n- YT Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/user/Faelcind...\n- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/rafekelley