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\U0001f449 Want to join us on Zoom for a LIVE airing of an EMP Podcast? https://cart.evolvemoveplay.com/plus/ \n\nOnce a month, we\u2019ll be holding live conversations that you can be a part of! \n\nWith EMP Podcast Plus, you\u2019ll get a members-only \u201cbackstage pass\u201d and exclusive access to:\n\U0001f534 Monthly LIVE Zoom calls with Rafe Kelley & EMP Podcast guests\n\U0001f399 Ask your Questions Live to Movement + Meaning Experts after the show\n\U0001f4ac Access to EMP\u2019s distraction-free movement discussion community\n\U0001f4f9 Exclusive Monthly Response video from Rafe to member questions\n\U0001f45f Movement Challenges for your Daily Practice!\nand so much more...\n\nWe hope to see you soon in our thriving movement community! \n\nJust hit the link below to chat with us between shows and in the next live episode!\n\U0001f449 Join on https://cart.evolvemoveplay.com/plus/ \n\n============\n\nIn our previous conversation with Paul, we had a very fruitful and engaging discussion grappling with the legacy, both positive and negative, of Christianity. \n\nAs it turned out, we had an amazing response to that episode and since I also really got a lot out of that conversation, I wanted to follow up with Paul pretty quickly and take the opportunity to dig into some of the threads that we didn't get to follow in the first chat.\n\nGoing into today\u2019s talk, I wanted to challenge him more and be a little bit of a stick in the mud intentionally because I think there are seriously important criticisms that we have to take on and it\u2019s important to examine the difficult aspects around the role of Christianity in the history of the west.\n\nSo I wanted to put this to Paul and see what his response was, and in doing so, this became a very deep conversation with some really powerful moments, especially towards the second half.\n\nI'm very excited to see how people respond to this and I'm very thankful to Paul for having these conversations with me as they've taught me a lot, so I hope you all get as much as I did out of it. \n\n============\nLearn More about Paul Vander Klay\n\nWeb: https://paulvanderklay.me/about-2/\nTwitter:@PaulVanderKlay\nYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsDIP_K6J6VSTqlq-9IPlg\n\n============\nBooks Mentioned in Today\u2019s Episode:\n\n1493 by Chales Mann\nThe Spell of the Sensuous by David Abrahm\nThe Discarded Image by CS Lewis\nNotes From the Underground by Leo Tolstoy\nLord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien\nAngela's Ashes by Frank McCourt\n============\n\n\U0001f44dTo support the podcast please like, share, subscribe and turn on the notifications by hitting the bell icon. \n\n\U0001f464 VISIT US ONLINE\n- EMP Website: https://www.evolvemoveplay.com\n- EMP Shop: https://shop.evolvemoveplay.com\n- IG: @RafeKelly - http://www.instagram.com/rafekelley/ \n- FB: @RafeKelleyMovement - https://www.facebook.com/RafeKelleyMovement/\n- Twitter: @rafekelley - https://twitter.com/rafekelley\n- YT Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/user/Faelcind?sub_confirmation=1\n- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/rafekelley\n============