Joseph Tully is a criminal justice attorney out of Martinez who represented among others Paul Fullerton and Heidi Lepp. He is the author of a book called, California "The State of Collusion."\n\nHe said in the book: "It sounds troubling and extreme but I see it every week as a criminal defense lawyer practicing criminal law in California: psychopaths in law enforcement \u2013 and they\u2019re not the outliers!"\n\nHe added: " It\u2019s not surprising but it is outrageous that these dangerously flawed people make it past what should be a much tighter screening system with ongoing accountability."\n\nOn the podcast we talk about the criminal justice system and focus heavily on the two cases of local interest.