In 2019, George Gasc\xf3n resigned from his position as San Francisco DA, moved to Los Angeles and ran against incumbent Jackie Lacey for DA as a reformer. Gasc\xf3n had gone from a traditional \u201ctough on crime\u201d beat officer to Police Chief to reform DA. He had seen first hand how the traditional approach did not work. That mass incarceration was not only expensive, but it failed to protect the community.\n\nHowever, since winning the race in 2020, he has faced opposition from police and holdover DA\u2019s and other conservative interests. At the time of recording this podcast, it was unclear whether the recall would qualify for the November ballot \u2013 but regardless, the expectation is that the opposition would continue.\n\nListen as George Gasc\xf3n talks about his journey from police officer to reform DA and what he believes he has accomplished so far and what needs to happen in the system.