Dave Heller is the vice president for governmental affairs at the Truckload Carriers Association. In that role, he is deeply involved in the trucking industry's reaction to the looming vaccination mandate coming out of the Biden administration.\nAt the recent annual meeting of the American Trucking Associations, Heller sat down with Drilling Deep host John Kingston to talk about that battle in Washington and how it might play out.\nAlso on the podcast, Kingston discusses how the rising price of natural gas, particularly in other parts of the world, is impacting diesel prices.\nFollow Drilling Deep on Apple Podcasts\nFollow Drilling Deep on Spotify\nMore FreightWaves Podcasts\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices