The bull vs. bear showdown is present in markets at all times. Freight is no exception.\nNoel Perry, long-time freight economist who works closely with the Transportation Intermediates Association and Truckstop.com, talks about the reasons for both arguments on this week's Drilling Deep.\nAlso on the podcast, host John Kingston discusses the wild ride that commodity diesel prices have been on the past week. A sharp downturn followed by days of gains that recovered all of the decline. It's tough to keep on top of it. \xa0\nFollow Drilling Deep on Apple Podcasts\nFollow Drilling Deep on Spotify\nMore FreightWaves Podcasts\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices