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Tuesday night\u2019s vice-presidential debate between Republican JD Vance and Democrat Tim Walz was a breath of fresh air in some ways. The discussion was civil, with Vance in particular attempting to present himself as reasonable. But hiding underneath the crisp suit, eloquent banter, and agreeable disagreements, is a Disorderer, who could become President in 2028, if not sooner.\xa0\n\xa0\nIn this special episode focusing on the VP debate, and the threat Vance presents to democracy, Alex Hall Hall is joined by Greg Olear, host of the Prevail podcast and author of \u2018Rough Beast: Who Donald Trump Really Is, What He\u2019ll Do if Re-Elected, and Why Democracy Must Prevail.\u2019\xa0\n\xa0\nThe pair analyze the implications of the debate for the upcoming election, the role of media in shaping public perception, and the potential threats posed by Vance's political agenda. Plus to Order the Disorder, Alex and Greg delve into the need for the Democrats to communicate effectively.\xa0\n\xa0\nFor more on the ongoing US Presidential race, subscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nProducer: George McDonagh\xa0\nExec Producer: Neil Fearn\xa0\n\xa0\nShow Notes Links\xa0\n\xa0\nVance and Walz stick to policy in polite VP debate - but who won? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y0863ry88o\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nCBS cut mics and fact-checked JD Vance in a more civil VP debate, drawing the ire of Trump and his allies: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/02/media/vance-walz-debate-cbs-moderators-fact-check/index.html\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nListen to Greg\u2019s podcast Prevail at https://pod.link/1553506699\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nRead his Substack Prevail at https://gregolear.substack.com/\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nGet his book Rough Beast: Who Donald Trump Really Is, What He\u2019ll Do if Re-Elected, and Why Democracy Must Prevail https://www.amazon.com/Rough-Beast-Re-Elected-Democracy-Prevail-ebook/dp/B0D4MS1D25\xa0\xa0\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices