Ep67. Dictators Disordering Quest for Internal Security

Published: Sept. 17, 2024, 4 a.m.

From Putin to Qadhafi, from Mohammed bin Salman to Trump\u2026 our current era of Enduring Disorder is filled with many Tyrants and Tyrant-wannabes. But why do Tyrants tend to seek Disorder rather than Order? The answer appears to lie in Tyrants\u2019 Endless Quest for Regime Security. Dictators have a marked predilection to put their own desire to cling to power in the short-and medium-term above all other considerations \u2013 even if that means deliberately making their countries\u2019 economies and militaries inefficient or willfully spreading Disorder around the globe.\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nTo discuss the deep connections between Tyranny and Disorder, we are joined by Marcel Dirsus, Jason\u2019s old Oxford chum, former Libya-Analysis LLC contractor, and author of \u2018How Tyrants Fall: And How Nations Survive\u2019. Marcel is a Non-Resident Fellow at the Institute for Security Policy at Kiel University and\u202fa member of the Standing Expert Committee on Terrorism and Interior Security at the Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung.\xa0\n\xa0\nJason and Marcel dig into the psychology of tyrannical leaders and the structural factors that push tyrants to behave as they do. They explore the concept of the \u2018selectorate\u2019 \u2014 i.e. who really matters in a given society to keep the ruler in power.\xa0 They explain how tyrannies have a much smaller and more elite \u2018selectorate\u2019 than democracies\u2026 this explains why pleasing these very few elites in the immediate term is the key variable required to keep dictators in power\u2026 and since those few pillars of regime support might flip at any moment, tyranny is actually an incredibly brittle form of government\u2026 and can actually collapse at any moment if its support pillars are removed\xa0\n\xa0\nIn the Ordering the Disorder section, Marcel and Jason urge democratic nations to realize the true extent of weakness prevalent in most dictatorships and target tyrants\u2019 henchmen to help create a more Ordered globe.\xa0\n\xa0\nTwitter: @DisorderShow\xa0\n\xa0\nSubscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nProducer: George McDonagh\xa0\nExec Producer: Neil Fearn\xa0\n\xa0\nShow Notes Links\xa0\nWhat is the Selectorate and what are the implications of \u2018Selectorate Theory\u2019 on how we understand international politics?\xa0 oxfordre.com/politics/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228637.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228637-e-293\xa0\nGet Marcel\u2019s book at https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/marcel-dirsus/how-tyrants-fall/9781399809481/\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nBut if you want to actually learn about Libya rather than simply reading some kooky stories that Marcel includes about Qadhafi, get Jason\u2019s book: https://globalenduringdisorder.com/\xa0\xa0\n\xa0\nRead more about Marcel at https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/07/17/taking-on-the-global-brotherhood-of-despots\xa0\xa0\nVisit his website https://www.marceldirsus.com/\xa0\xa0\nVisit his substack https://thehundred.substack.com/\xa0\xa0\nAnd for the reference to Nadav Safran\u2019s \u2018Saudi Arabia: The Ceaseless Quest for Security\u2019: https://www.amazon.com/Saudi-Arabia-Ceaseless-Quest-Security/dp/0674789857\xa0\xa0\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices