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b'We celebrate 9 full months of Disorder with a live studio recording. Climate change hasn\\u2019t been acted on coherently by a coalition of major powers, while certain governments and businesses have prevented climate action choosing to pursue short-term goals. Is this to be expected? Is it rational for some governments and business to pull in different directions or are they missing the plot and thinking too short-term?\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nBut then again, is it in the long-term interest of most major states, citizens, and multinational corporations to work together to fight climate change? Or is it actually a rational calculation for certain states or corporations (like oil producing ones) to fight the creation of global coordination mechanisms and delay the energy transition and look to profit from the current high demand for the fossil fuels that they either export or produce?\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nTo discuss this issue, Jason Pack is joined by Olivia Azadegan and Hassan Damluji.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nHassan Damluji is a British-Iraqi development expert and author of The Responsible Globalist: What Citizens of the World Can Learn from Nationalism. He is Co-founder of Global Nation, which focuses on improving international cooperation to combat climate change, pandemics, inequality and conflict. Olivia Azadegan is a British-Iranian, a fellow at the Women Leaders in Energy and Climate Change at the Atlantic Council and a winner of a Forbes 30 under 30 Award.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nThe trio discuss: what is the role of the MENA region in fighting climate change, how can nations effectively coordinate to incentivise each other to act now, and why low hanging fruit like reducing methane emissions could help us Order the Disorder.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nTwitter: @DisorderShow\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nSubscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nWebsite: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nProducer: George McDonagh\\xa0\\nExec Producer: Neil Fearn\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nShow Notes Links\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nListen to our previous Climate Change focusing on COP episode at: https://pod.link/1706818264/episode/57a09a9714313530fa16475c09396f7b\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nFor more on COP and collective action:\\xa0\\nhttps://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/12/13/in-a-first-cop28-targets-the-root-cause-of-climate-change\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nHow MENA countries face achieving climate resilience: https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2024/04/assessing-climate-adaptation-plans-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa?lang=en\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nExploring the Energy Transition and Net-Zero Strategies of Gulf Oil Producers: https://www.bakerinstitute.org/research/exploring-energy-transition-and-net-zero-strategies-gulf-oil-producers\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nA profile of our Queen for an episode: https://www.forbes.com/profile/olivia-azadegan/\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'