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b'This week we examine the regional roles played by Egypt and Iran and discuss British diplomacy towards those countries over the last decade or so. Iran and Egypt offer a fascinating study in contrasts \\u2013 in terms of their dealings with Israel and Hamas, as well as their posturing relative to the outside world.\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nSo who better to help us understand these countries regional role than Alex\\u2019s former boss, Sir Geoffrey Adams, who served as British Ambassador both to Iran (2006-9) and to Egypt (2018-21). He served\\xa0 also as Consul General in Jerusalem, the representative to the Palestinian Authority; as Foreign Office Director for the Middle East, and as DG Political \\u2013 the chief political advisor in the Foreign Office. He is now an honorary lecturer at the Institute for Iranian Studies at the University of St Andrews.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nSir Geoffrey relates his experiences of how diplomacy \\u2018feels\\u2019 in Tehran and Cairo and explains why medium powers like Egypt and Iran cannot be dictated to by disunited Western powers. Alex and Jason try to Order the Disorder by discussing Iran\\u2019s role as a disordering power, Egypt\\u2019s role as a mediating one, and why the medium powers in the region need to step up.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nTwitter: @DisorderShow\\xa0\\nInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/disorderpod/\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nSubscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nProducer: George McDonagh\\xa0\\nExec Producer: Neil Fearn\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nShow Notes Links\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nSir Geoffrey\\u2019s FCDO bio is available here\\nHis \\u2018Reflections on the Arab Spring Ten Years On\\u2019 can be accessed here\\n\\xa0\\xa0\\nFor more on the role of Iran as Disorderer please consult Ali Ansari in Ep4 here\\n\\xa0\\nFor more on the regional role of Egypt and why Gaza is existential for Egypt according to Nathan Brown: pls consult in Ep16. The Struggle for Leadership of the Islamic World here\\n\\xa0\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'