Bonus Episode: The moral and military dynamics at play in Ukraine and Gaza with David Patrikarakos
b'In this bonus episode, Jason discusses his mom\\u2019s Thanksgiving stuffing recipe as he is joined by our roving correspondent \\u2013 David Patrikarakos \\u2013 who missed Turkey Day in London choosing to go to Ukraine and Gaza instead. The pair \\u2018drone\\u2019 on about the use of Iranian Shahid drones in both conflicts, the similarities and differences in the moral and military calculus in Ukraine as opposed to Gaza, and how today\\u2019s easy access to technology means traditionally lesser military powers can achieve a modicum of leveling up with their more 1st world opponents. The pair also try to step away from the current news cycle to debunk some historical misconceptions about both conflicts.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nIn the Ordering the Disorder segment, the discuss the role of historical narratives and mythmaking, the West\\u2019s need to hold the line in the Ukraine, and why there are no easy solutions for the day after the War in Gaza.\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nTwitter: @DisorderShow\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nWebsite: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/\\xa0\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nProducer: George McDonagh\\xa0\\nExec Producer: Neil Fearn\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nShow Notes Links\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nMore on David\\u2019s recent trip to Ukraine here\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nAnd his thoughts on the chances of a regional Middle Eastern escalation here\\n\\xa0\\nAnd back to Jason\\u2019s solutions, \\u2018The Road to Middle East Peace Runs Through Doha\\u2019 here\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'